Jackson filed a police report. Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception - Exposing the Dangerous Teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Denomination Welcome to BaptistDeception.com Edit Exposing the Dangerous Teachings and Traditions of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination Please scroll down to find a list of articles for your convenience. A bit later, concerned about creeping liberalism in that association, it split away to join the GARB (the General Association of Regular Baptists no, really, thats a thing). The Bible has plenty in it of rules, and I doubt someone who believes in a burning hell forever can really get a supposed love message across. Those who opposed the Great Whore of Revelation before the rise of the Reformers were again you guessed it; BAPTIST CHRISTIANS who came before the Protestant Christians ever came to existence and I am proud of my Baptist heritage. In that case, thou shalt work on your bus route until 3 am Monday morning, then get your sorry, lazy ass ready for your theology classes at our bible college that morning. You were right; they were wrong; and no sane person in the world would say otherwise. Then, say people who were in attendance, he proceeded to praise Giovanelli. He witnessed the same authoritarian approach. 7 reviews. Glory to God alone. Aug 10, 2008. The Star-Telegram counted 187 independent fundamental Baptist churches and affiliated institutions that had been affected by sexual abuse allegations. (Not the liberal InterVarsity, mind you, Campus Crusade.). Feel free to add your own additions to the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Rule Book. Here has been a few problems that caused divisions in the body of Christ thanks to some Independent Fundamental Baptists: 1.) Thou shalt wear the sweatshirts & caps of your favorite basketball team; they are only evil & worldly if you choose to go to college there. But Black Baptists reject the MAGA revolution that has taken the GOP, and the SBC, by storm. I vaguely recognize some of the standards that you mentioned, but not to the extreme that you have described them. Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches Are MODERN Churches! So hard to tell if it is a cult. INDEPENDENT FUNDAMENTAL BAPTISTS FAR TOO MANY OF THEM RUN WITH DEVILS . A one-foot ruler, or its equivalent in a paddle, is a sufficient alternative. The network of churches and schools has often covered up the crimes and helped relocate the offenders, an eight-month Star-Telegram investigation has found. Black people bear the indelible and wretched curse of the "mark of Cain.". 2. They didn't sink deep enough. And what can possibly be more worthy of a person's love than God and family? Perhaps the most well-known Independent Fundamentalist Baptists today are the Duggars, the quiverfull family made famous by the reality show19 Kids and Counting. Next time? This is an independent fundamental Baptist program that has chapters in churches all across the country. I really want to write a book or start a podcast about all this shit at some point. (The mind of an 18 year old girl that had been sort of bad with many boys in high school, shame on me) Their page says "Our church is a friendly fundamental Bible-believing Independent Baptist . Thou shalt not have more than one hole in each ear shall be amended as follows: WOMEN ONLY shall be permitted no more than one piercing in the earlobe of each ear. The Black Baptist preachers affiliated with the SBC aren't proclaiming a Black Jesus, railing against white racism, or demanding reparations from white Baptists. I was never attacked by them, and to the best of my knowledge neither were my siblings. They repented and were restored..every like 6 mo. In Christ alone. The Star-Telegram discovered at least 412 allegations of sexual misconduct in 187 independent fundamental Baptist churches and their affiliated institutions, spanning 40 states and Canada. The New Testament is the authority in all matters of faith and practice. I've been looking for a church that does baptisms and a church up the road does them. One of my other professors did allow that saying shoot was okay, as she was used to people from Ohio saying it! Your comments are welcome and appreciated. Generally speaking howe. And may you recognize your error while there is still time. Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB) is a loosely-affiliated, cultish denomination of Christian fundamentalists. Truly horrifying. Like the millions of others around the country who need to read these stories, they wont be able to unless they subscribe to a newspaper hundreds of miles from where they live. Look at centralized Catholicisms opportunity to shuffle priests from one parish to another, few questions asked. Meant to be taken literally, the KJV is inspired, inerrant, infallible, and the supreme and final authority in all things. If you spend any time covering sexual abuse story, any belief that congregations are never complicit in abuse and cover-up goes evaporates quickly. Thou shalt not work a job as a woman even if thou canst afford the private school and live in a shitty house because your husband spends all his after tax money on the private school and tithing. You served them that way. Yet independent Baptists, by design, are less familiar to outsiders than other Christian traditions. May 27, 2011 -- Ernest Willis, a New Hampshire man accused of raping and fathering a child with a 15-year-old girl . You trusted. When the baby bit, she pulled hair (an alternative has to be sought for baldheaded babies). Bruce, you and many of those that comment to your posts are a help to me. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. a couple of Greek Orthodox nuns are protesting the reinstatement of a priest, Todays Psychology Cant Help American Men. They might as well be Mormons.Sense they add their own rules and Bible.They are acting as a cult its not biblical.Gal1:8 They are teaching false teachings,And not the doctrines of the Bible.They are Just adding their own rules. Bruce pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. I sometimes post on another board and (hopefully its ok) I would like to link a thread that is going on over there. The video posted on the church website ends. 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Dont Dress Like a Whore if You Dont Want to Get Sexually Assaulted Says Lori Alexander, Thou shalt obey all adults at all times if you are a child or teenager, Thou shalt obey your husband at all times if you are a woman, Thou shalt obey your parents at all times, Thou shalt obey the police and government unless the pastor says it is a sin against God to do so, Thou shalt give a faith promise missionary offering, Thou give an offering any time the pastor says God is saying to collect a special offering, Thou shalt attend church every time the doors are open, Thou shalt pray for every meal, but ice cream at Dairy Queen after church requires no prayer, Thou shalt only use the King James Bible 1611 edition which is really the 1769 revision, Thou shalt only use the Scofield King James Bible, Thou shalt not have long hair (over your ears, collar) if you are a man, Thou shalt not have a block cut hairstyle if you are a man, Thou shalt not have facial hair if you are a man, but if you are a woman you can have facial hair, Thou shalt not have tattoos unless you have prison tats from your life before Christ, Thou shalt not take the hem out of your Levi jeans or alter your clothing in any way so that you look worldly, Thou shalt not wear pants (britches) if you are a woman, Thou shalt not wear shorts, but a woman can wear Baptist shorts also known as culottes, Thou shalt not expose any flesh if you are a woman, especially your thighs, breasts, or back, Thou shalt only wear dresses with hemlines below the knees if you are a woman, Thou shalt not have any physical contact with the opposite sex if you are unmarried, Thou shalt not have more than one hole in each ear if you are a woman, Thou shalt not pierce any body part except your ear, and then only if you are a woman, Thou shalt not watch TV, but if you are a carnal Christian and must watch TV thou shalt only watch, Thou shalt not go to the movie theater, but using streaming services is okay, Thou shalt always have tracts in your shirt pocket or purse, ready to evangelize at a moments notice, Thou shalt drive a car with church advertising stickers, IFB cliches, or Bible verses attached to the bumper, Thou shalt park down the street when visiting the local strip club or whore house lest the pastor know you are there and stay away, Thou shalt not listen to secular music, especially rock music, which is from the pit of hell, Thou shalt not listen to contemporary Christian music (CCM), Thou shalt not drink fermented alcohol after all, Jesus drank Welchs grape juice, Thou shalt not cuss, but saying darn, shoot, crap, freaking, and fudge are okay, Thou shalt not date non-Independent Baptist girls or boys, Thou shalt not have any non-Independent Baptist friends, Thou shalt home school your children or send them to a Christian school, Thou shalt only read pastor-approved Christian books, Thou shalt only believe what the pastor says you are to believe, Thou shalt say you have victory over sin, even if you are lying, Thou shalt adhere to the perception is reality rule, Thou shalt send your kids to the same Christian college the pastor went to, Thou shalt leave the church if you commit adultery, get a divorce, or get pregnant outside of marriage, Thou shalt believe everything the pastor says even when you are certain he is lying, speaking evangelistically, or embellishing his illustrations, Thou shalt wear a bra if you are a woman, and it can only be a white, underwire bra, Thou shalt not mix bathe (Baptist for swimming with the opposite sex), Thou shalt not go to amusement parks unless the youth group is going, Thou shalt not show emotion unless praising Jesus from 10:00 am to noon on Sunday or giving a testimony during Sunday evening service, Thou shalt say AMEN during at the appropriate time during the pastors sermon, especially when he shouts, pounds the pulpit, or performs gymnastics, Thou shalt not be angry even though the pastor is allowed to be angry, but thats because his anger is righteous anger, Thou shalt be for what the pastor is for and against what the pastor is against, because if you dont, a bear might come out of the woods and eat you, Thou shalt ignore any science that contradicts the Bible, Thou shalt never try to fix your own problems because the pastor is the official fixer of all problems, Thou shalt takes notes on the sermon even if the rabbit wanders five miles off the trail or the sermon is incoherent, Thou shalt always tell the pastor what a wonderful sermon he preached, even when you have no idea what he was talking about, Thou shalt always tell Sister Bertha what a wonderful job she did with her off-key rendition of, Thou shalt not use canned (taped) music for music specials. He is his own man and refuses to be tied down or corralled by anything. Shaking my head, wishing I had gotten out of that place sooo much sooner than we did, you know when I shouldve used my own brain and listened to my gut. If you're unfamiliar with the beliefs and practices of the Independent Fundamental Baptists, some of them are: IFBs also generally believe that the will of a child must be broken before it ever has a chance to develop: a fussing or crying baby is exerting its selfish will. Where you claim what's true. You could look into resolutions by Fundamental Baptist Fellowship International or World Congress of . Hope you have a good day. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. It's you who are singing the songs that need to be heard. This is 100% the independent Baptist school I attended. * Maybe some can relate to this cartoon from NAKEDPASTOR. In response to an explosive investigation, top Southern Baptists have released a previously secret list of hundreds of pastors and other church-affiliated personnel accused of . They controlled the process except for the final approval. While neo-evangelicals sent their kids to Wheaton College or Fuller Theological Seminary, fundamentalist Baptist kids went toBob Jones UniversityorPensacola Christian College. You have all the information you need to attack me for making this statement, but I assure you that there is very little left to attack. You loved them in that (and a million other) ways. When it is obvious he is totally broken, she will hand him the rag and very calmly say, "Johnny, clean up your mess.". Even my Southern Baptist Church wasnt this strict! Excerpt: Stories like that display a Roman Catholic problem, right? Shellnut also draws on Messiah College historian John Feas description of these independent fundamentalist Baptists, so lets turn to that. Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Landmarkism began as a movement in the mid-1800's mainly in the Southern Baptist Convention. The American Ideas Institute is a nonprofit, non-partisan 501(c)(3) organization based in Washington, D.C. 2022 The American Conservative, a publication of The American Ideas Institute. If thou dost sin and eat at a restaurant (due to the slothful disposition of thy wife), then thou shalt leave a tract for the server-never a tip. See her report here: Hundreds Accuse Independent Baptist Pastors of Abuse.. Escape by Carolyn Jessop. Only the KJV will be used in this group; please check . What the fuck is YOUR problem?? It could be the case that Bishop Andonios is lying here. Then Hyles would yell from the pulpit that If the barn needed paintingand the men would hoopla with their Bibles waving in the air. (1) Some congregations have dominating pastors with unchecked authority. My wife did not waste time finding a cure. They didn't give over their will over to God. The independent fundamentalist Baptist movement emerged sometime in the 1940s as an attempt to continue the legacy of the fundamentalist movement of the 1920s. I had the pleasure of hearing Dr. Roberson, a couple of times, when I was in College! Hyles flight to safety has become a well-worn path for ministers in the independent fundamental Baptist movement. Jack Hyles preached at our Christian school (1978) and Proclaimed that it was a sin for a boy to wear anything but white underwear, and also a sin if a boy didnt have his hair buzz cut on the back ! I grew up in the IFB circles in the PNW. Shame on you, sir. The Star-Telegram series is long, but I encourage you to read the whole thing. I preached over 4,000 sermons. Men alone are suited to be the head of home and church. What's Wrong with the Independent Fundamental Baptists? (2) Evangelical culture has a conference and lecture circuit with celebrities and quasi-celebrities who come to cities for weekend workshops and one-night lectures that provide opportunities to sin and go, leaving behind casualties. And the papers paywall wont allow you to reload any given article, meaning that youve got to get all the way through some very long reads in one go. I may yet end up in Hell myself, but I wont see you there, nor will you see me. Learn More. And the all important, Thou shalt not, never, under no circumstances, not even in thought, criticize the pastor. Gods anointed, remember! Prove that you are bigger, tougher, more patiently enduring and are unmoved by his wailing. Although the decentralized nature of Protestantism makes statistics very hard to find, weve particularly found opportunities for abuse and cover-ups in three kinds of situations. If this doesnt work, she shall make the Sunday evening edition, Enjoy everyone! He is the man of God who speaks for God. The Bible is filled with rules that have everything to do with salvation. Memo to former Evangelicals: be like Kathy. BITE Model. The primary function of a woman is to have children, who then become her mission field. God changes his mind several times in the Bible. Today the name Baptist is used by many churches that are not following the teachings of the New Testament. Women need not apply and should not study martial arts. See where Im going with this? While practices can vary from church to church, independent fundamental Baptists do share some core beliefs, according to Christianity Today: that the Bible is the divinely inspired and inerrant word of God, for example, and that people should use only the King James Version of the text.Independent fundamental Baptists refrain from engaging in pop culture and many also home-school their kids. And if they failed to treat that greatest of gifts with the sacrosanct respect it deserves, then shame on them. Generally speaking (and this differs greatly from church to church) Independent Baptists and Southern Baptists tend to have about the same doctrinal stance. The modern fundie bible is full of contradictions and lies. The Lordship controversy and misrepresenting the Lordship preachers. And while we only memorized verses in the King James Version and lots of them and used the KJV in Sunday services, we were also allowed and even encouraged to read the NIV and other more accessible translations. The items you are questioning are not the "doctrine" of independent fundamental Baptists. Yelling, storytelling, and moralism replaced proclaiming simply what God has said. I never understood it. But, I have a few, from the legendary Dr Bob of Longview: Thou shalt watch football on Monday night. The New Independent Fundamental Baptist network, most prominently associated with anti-LGBTQ pastor Steven Anderson, appears to be in turmoil as infighting again erupts, this time between Anderson and fellow pastors in the network. Find an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church | Canada. SPECIAL: Prayer Changes Your Brain in 4 Amazing Ways 1. A world where you say what is and isn't good. They're now playing "Lost in the Supermarket" in the supermarket. All these Rules have nothing to do with Salvation.Jesus set us free from bondage called Legalism.Galatians5.This There rules but not biblical.This is a system of control its a man made book of rules. https://www.nakedpastorstore.com/blogs/news/adoring-pastors. These other distinctions, distinctives and emphases all serve, in varying degrees, as proxies for that.). A new website has launched with the aim of helping single New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (NIFB) find each other for hopes of love and matrimony, with a niche focus and stringent guidelines being a feature, not a bug. #1. When I joined the junior high youth group, they even gave me a Living Bible (the one with the cool denim cover and the stick-figure illustrations). I am far from perfect. After I graduated from that school I didnt wear a skirt for 2 years at my secular university! I wondered how in the world that man could look at his wife much less have sex with her because why would you defile such a woman who looked so sheepish and innocent!! The New IFB is an attempt to revive the former glory and orthodoxy of the Independent Fundamental Baptists, a movement that arose in the mid-20 th century in reaction to fears that mainstream. That will needs to be eliminated, since wherever human will is God's will cannot be. Much of this movement was a response to the so-called neo-evangelical movement. They used you as fodder in the war between themselves and everything they fear. Contributors control their own work and posted freely to our site. The basic beliefs of this group is Anti-LGBT, Misogyny, Anti-Worldliness, KJV Bible only, anti-semitism, and more. A minority of Baptists contend that Baptist churches originated in the first century, deducing their claim from the fact that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist. I am still a very committed Christian, but I was thankfully out of the IFB world once I left for college (a secular university). None were ever convicted due to being men of god. If they really loved God they would have loved you and everyone else in a manner befitting that love: properly, carefully, consistently. Single. They kept what worked for them. America needs great Independent Baptist churches again. They are going out of their way to send a few to heaven, while you are going out of your way to send a few more to hell.
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